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commoncents05
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Bought this coin on eBay on Sunday.
I bought the coin above Sunday night. I had to make a deposit on Monday, and paid for it Monday afternoon. Earlier this afternoon, I get an email from PayPal saying my payment has been refunded, and I get this email from the seller:
<< <i>We had this coin for sale concurrently in our store. The coin was sold in store & not taken off ebay in time. This is our mistake are sorry for any problems this may have caused.
We thank you for your business
World coin >>
I think the guy is giving me a load of BS, so I call his shop and pretend to be a collector trying to fill some holes in his collection. I ask about some various other coins, and then ask if he has a 55 DDO in stock. He kind of chuckles, and says they in fact do have an NGC AU53 in stock, and he can sell it to me for $2150.
So, clearly the seller was not happy with the selling price, and decides to back out of the transaction. So, should I neg him?
-Paul
I bought the coin above Sunday night. I had to make a deposit on Monday, and paid for it Monday afternoon. Earlier this afternoon, I get an email from PayPal saying my payment has been refunded, and I get this email from the seller:
<< <i>We had this coin for sale concurrently in our store. The coin was sold in store & not taken off ebay in time. This is our mistake are sorry for any problems this may have caused.
We thank you for your business
World coin >>
I think the guy is giving me a load of BS, so I call his shop and pretend to be a collector trying to fill some holes in his collection. I ask about some various other coins, and then ask if he has a 55 DDO in stock. He kind of chuckles, and says they in fact do have an NGC AU53 in stock, and he can sell it to me for $2150.
So, clearly the seller was not happy with the selling price, and decides to back out of the transaction. So, should I neg him?
-Paul
Many Quality coins for sale at http://www.CommonCentsRareCoins.com
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Total Copper Nutcase - African, British Ships, Channel Islands!!!
'Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup'
I would try to work out a deal before starting a conflict.
Ugh....check him out on Toolhaus
On 9/15/10 he received this neutral feedback: "i won,then paid.then seller tells me he cant sell for that price."
go ahead. it'll be hard to tell that story in the feedback though.
I am sure some dealers will come on here and defend this type of practice, but to me, it is dishonest.
Looking at the coin, I wouldn't have even bid on it, but that doesn't change facts.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Call people on this BS!
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
If you neg him it will stick but his rebuttal will be plausible if he stays with his original story.
If you can't work it out at least he knows you know he is a dirtbag and you will have the upper hand and a "gotcha" rebuttal to any justification he might post.
Lance.
then leave a negative for him!!!
If it really had been sold, no.
Sorry you didn't get the coin you wanted and obviously deserved.
The things I don’t always agree with are always worth considering.
<< <i>"Seller refuses to ship coin but offers me same coin over the phone for $465 more than my winning bid." >>
PERFECT
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<< <i>"Seller refuses to ship coin but offers me same coin over the phone for $465 more than my winning bid." >>
PERFECT >>
BINGO! Definitely neg him.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
he is doing true auctions and not using shills, so that good right?
<< <i>In this guys defense (not saying he is right, there are two sides to a coin.)
he is doing true auctions and not using shills, so that good right? >>
Wrong is wrong, no matter how it's justified. If he really needed a set amount, he should include a reserve. He is just hoping that a no reserve auction will hype-up interest in his coin, it didn't.
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<< <i>In this guys defense (not saying he is right, there are two sides to a coin.)
he is doing true auctions and not using shills, so that good right? >>
Wrong is wrong, no matter how it's justified. If he really needed a set amount, he should include a reserve. He is just hoping that a no reserve auction will hype-up interest in his coin, it didn't. >>
Yes I know it was sarcastic.
<< <i>In this guys defense (not saying he is right, there are two sides to a coin.)
he is doing true auctions and not using shills, so that good right? >>
If you don't follow through at the end, no, it isn't good nor is it right. The seller has NO defense, imho.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>In this guys defense (not saying he is right, there are two sides to a coin.)
he is doing true auctions and not using shills, so that good right? >>
If you don't follow through at the end, no, it isn't good nor is it right. The seller has NO defense, imho. >>
i agree its actually not a true auction because hes not selling to the highest bidder he is either just a bad business man (based on his feedback's where it seems he does this alot) or is going about finding realized prices in all the wrong ways
Sure.
Neg him if you think it'll make you feel better!
Of course, you neg will have "zero" impact on his overall feedback.
The name is LEE!
(For the sarcasm impaired: Neg him so hard he lands in the next universe).
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>In this guys defense (not saying he is right, there are two sides to a coin.)
he is doing true auctions and not using shills, so that good right? >>
If he has a minimum acceptable price he should start his acution at it or set a reserve price. His reputation (and ebay seller discounts) should suffer with this type of behavior. Ebay has made it easier to start auctions at higher prices with their "100 per month" free auction style listings.
The things I don’t always agree with are always worth considering.
<< <i>Maybe. But I agree it would be smart to try and work this out.
If you neg him it will stick but his rebuttal will be plausible if he stays with his original story.
If you can't work it out at least he knows you know he is a dirtbag and you will have the upper hand and a "gotcha" rebuttal to any justification he might post.
Lance. >>
Can't the buyer counter his rebuttal feedback?
The name is LEE!
<< <i>Wow, that's some pretty horrible neg feedback others have left for this seller and there's a lot of it. >>
My favorite one is the war nickel "advertised as silver when in fact it's only 30%" as if the buyer is telling us something here lol great stuff.
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<< <i>Maybe. But I agree it would be smart to try and work this out.
If you neg him it will stick but his rebuttal will be plausible if he stays with his original story.
If you can't work it out at least he knows you know he is a dirtbag and you will have the upper hand and a "gotcha" rebuttal to any justification he might post.
Lance. >>
Can't the buyer counter his rebuttal feedback? >>
Yes, but it doesn't remove what the buyer stated.
The things I don’t always agree with are always worth considering.
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<< <i>Maybe. But I agree it would be smart to try and work this out.
If you neg him it will stick but his rebuttal will be plausible if he stays with his original story.
If you can't work it out at least he knows you know he is a dirtbag and you will have the upper hand and a "gotcha" rebuttal to any justification he might post.
Lance. >>
Can't the buyer counter his rebuttal feedback? >>
Yes, but it doesn't remove what the buyer stated. >>
So whats wrong with:
Neg: Seller reneged on auction because the "right" price was not achieved.
Seller: Coin was sold on another venue. Sorry.
Neg: Coin is still for sale in his Coin Shop. Call World Coin & Jewelry Exchange in Florida.
The name is LEE!
There appears to possibly be some crud (possible verdigris?) on the obverse, right of 9 in date, bottom centre of Lincoln's bust, above right of G and D in God and E of WE?
mbogoman
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/classic-issues-colonials-through-1964/zambezi-collection-trade-dollars/7345Asesabi Lutho
Isn't there a small possibility that he had ANOTHER example that he was selling for $2150 and that he actually did already sell the ebay coin prior to the auction ending? (I know, unlikely, but not impossible...)
<< <i>"Seller refuses to ship coin but offers me same coin over the phone for $465 more than my winning bid." >>
The above statement seems pretty accurate based on what the OP states to be the facts. So, is it a stretch to say the OP could file a complaint with ebay for fee avoidance. Same coin he won, now being offered outside of ebay to the same buyer. Generally people get the boot from ebay for this stuff, don't they?
Not an ebay expert, but sure sounds like leverage to me.
Good luck. I vote for the neg.
Andrew
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<< <i>Isn't there a small possibility that he had ANOTHER example that he was selling for $2150 and that he actually did already sell the ebay coin prior to the auction ending? (I know, unlikely, but not impossible...) >>
It would be great if someone had a local friend who went to the shop and checked the cert number. If it matched the eBay coin, there's your smoking gun.
<< <i>I'd definitely leave a neg here, but I might have some more fun, first. You might be able to string him along for a while if you want to waste some of his time for your own enjoyment. Or, you can just call him out on it right now. I'd probably make it really clear to him before leaving the feedback, if for no other reason than to catch him off-guard live, rather than just his seeing another crappy feedback post. >>
Call him back and ask him if he can send you the coin on approval. Confirm the NGC cert number, and send him a check for the winning bid, along with copies of the listing and his correspondence. After this transaction, NEG HIM!
<< <i>So what did you say after he offered it to you for $2150?
Isn't there a small possibility that he had ANOTHER example that he was selling for $2150 and that he actually did already sell the ebay coin prior to the auction ending? (I know, unlikely, but not impossible...) >>
You could ask for the cert number for the one he has over the phone. If it is the same, neg.
HH
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
<< <i>i would neg him and report him for not completing the transaction >>
Agree. He lied to you and deserves a neg. This is an obvious no brainer.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
Edit to remove my wrong words.
<< <i>Sure.
Neg him if you think it'll make you feel better!
Of course, you neg will have "zero" impact on his overall feedback. >>
What is wrong with giving a well deserved neg? If nothing else, it will help warn future bidders that this guy don't play by the rules and is a liar.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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<< <i>Wow, that's some pretty horrible neg feedback others have left for this seller and there's a lot of it. >>
My favorite one is the war nickel "advertised as silver when in fact it's only 30%" as if the buyer is telling us something here lol great stuff. >>
classic!
<< <i>Call him back and ask him if he can send you the coin on approval. Confirm the NGC cert number, and send him a check for the winning bid, along with copies of the listing and his correspondence. After this transaction, NEG HIM! >>